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MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 5:00pm PST
. let's take a look at the so-called fiscal cliff. the bush tax cuts will expire. everyone, even republicans know if we go over the cliff, the bush tax cuts will be restored for at least 98% of americans. payroll taxes will go back to normal in 2013. the payroll tax cut was always intended to be a temporary measure. the alternative minimum tax would hit middle class americans. year after year, this has been fixed by lawmakers and like everything else notice fiscal cliff, it can be done retroactively. the harshest effects of spending cuts could be modified in the first month or two of 2013. in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 2:00am PST
in the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there is a grand bargain but hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't change tax cuts in day, middle income earners will owe extra by the end of the year and they will cut back on auto industry, apparel and entertainment. >> once they cut back on that, that will be dramatic. >> reporter: retailers support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downturn intensifies, those jobs are at risk. >> if retailers stop creating jobs, the economy as a whole stops creating jobs. >> reporter: the weight is excruciating for some and president obama left them $200 billion apart. >> the president was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
an inane debate about that. now it's the fiscal cliff. and whether or not across the board cuts should be made to all kinds of services and programs because the super committee couldn't do what it was supposed to do. this doesn't help trying to put the country forward, put americans back to work, reestablish our prominence around the country and the world as the great nation we are. we need to see much more business and action out of washington. the cities require it, mayors need it, more importantly, americans are demanding it. >> something you'd like to see action on, mayors against illegal guns, there seems to be this push towards that. mr. biden has his own commission regarding it, but there is a worry amongst some folks once time passes, once we get past the state of the union, this could fizzle out. knowing how much gun control has talked about -- >> not going to happen. >> why not? why is it going to stay a pertinent part of the conversation in the public going forward? >> i think the public has been shocked and their conscience has been put on the carpet here with this one, and
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00am PST
to be a massive fiscal cliff of large spending cuts and tax increases. i hope that congress will look at that and figure out ways to achieve the same long-run fiscal improvement without having it all happen at one date. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement. and we intend to continue negotiations. >> and so, here we are, new year's eve, and the country counts down to popping champagne corks, the ball dropping in times square, and going over the fiscal cliff. if congress fails to act in the remaining hours of 2012, taxes will go up on all americans and a series of mandatory government spending cuts will kick in. hello, new year. hello, new recession. after two years of missing self-imposed deadline after self-imposed deadline, all eyes were on the senate over the weekend as the house's failure to even bring a plan to a vote left it up to the upper chamber to find a way out. vice president biden who had remained on the sidelines in this round of talks was even called in to help move things al
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of congressional failure around this issue. >> well, let's talk about what exactly is likely to happen or is the threat of what will happen. talk about the pentagon. talk about federal workers. talk about obviously the unemploy unemployed whose benefits are going away. >> absolutely. the biggest -- the most dangerous thing, the fiscal cliff is the unemployment insurance. if we go over for a month we can sort of trick everything else. we can -- the irs can do some tricks to make it so you don't feel tax increases quickly. we can do tricks to make it so we don't lay off people at pentagon, we can furlough them. there's no t
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is actually starting to pick up. we are seeing signs of recovery in housing and in employment numbers improving. and so what congress needs to do, first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they are for 98% of americans. 97% of small businesses. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 11:00am PST
of those cuts in defense alone. >> well, the other part of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts. and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but you know, so far at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff done. not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate. but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit. as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> you talk about a dysfunction in washington. you signed this legislation setting up the fiscal cliff 17 months ago. how
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts. and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but you know, so far at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff done. not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate. but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit. as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> you talk about a dysfunction in washington. you signed this legislation setting up the fiscal cliff 17 months ago. how accountable are you for the fact that washington can't get anything d
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 11:00pm PST
this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was, that we should keep taxes where they are for 98% of americans. 97% of small businesses. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure that the wealthy are paying a litt
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 2:00am PST
when people were starting to lose hope on the edge of the fiscal cliff the president met with leaders and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big new
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up for people above $1 million, they showed that it's very difficult to do business this w them. >> you said the president made too many concessions. >> i think so. >> were you more a fan of the $250,000 and less than that or -- >> i'm more of a fan of the $250,000 but mainly, mainly i would not vote for a nickel in -- under any circumstances for a nickel in cuts to social security benefits. >> so when we look at that and there are those on the right that say i won't vote for a nickel in revenue and then you coming on saying i won't vote for a nickel less than what people are getting -- >> on social security. that's
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 2:30am PST
are already taking a good hard look at their wallets as confidence the avoidance of the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't oaks spire tax cuts in day, middle income earners will owe $2,000 extra a year. consumers are predicted to cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people decide to cut back on that, the effect is dramatic. >> reporter: the national retail federation says retailers support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward trend intensify, those jobs would be at risk. >> if retailers stop creating job, the economy as a whole will stop creating jobs. >> reporter: the wait is e excruciating. president obama visited hawaii after talks on capitol hill. they were $200 billion apart on a deal. >> the president was $2200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new y
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 9:00am PST
, it's not surprising they are willing to do this with the fiscal cliff. it's clear also they don't care about deficits, because the two things they can't agree is rescind all the spending cuts in defense, in the sequester, which, of course, would raise the deficit if they did that, and they can't agree to any tax increases at all, even though tax increases would reduce the deficit. >> catherine, isn't it their deficit in large part deficit? >> of course, but they have political amnesia. ideology is the science of idiots. here's one of these moments where when you live inside the box and refuse to look at empirical evidence, refuse to understand history to show us how economies work, how tax cuts or increases affect populations, then they are going to follow this line of idiocy over their own, i think, political cliff. and the partisanship is going to wreak tremendous havoc on the republican party in the upcoming elections. >> we have limited time. i want to go back to john harwood. is there a time here, john, when we're going to see the markets start to react or are we expecting
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 11:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. president obama is due back in d.c. after cutting his vacation short. the house speaker has yet to call his numbers back to work. they are scheduled to return to d.c. tomorrow. we learned today that house members won't be handling any legislative business. one republican aide saying it's up to senate democrats to act right now. let's bring in the correspondent in d.c. luke, little to no signs that senators connell and reid are on the same page. how likely is it that the senate would be able to do what the house could not? >> talking to a few sources, folks say it's about 50-50 right now. the senate could have a mini deal done before the new year and that each minute and hour that goes by, that number would seem to shrink and it's less likely. we are told that senator harry reid is gaming how many republicans would vote for a mini deal and most likely extend the tax rates and those making $250,000 or less. obviously anything that goes forward, they will want to be law. they don't want to do that. he wanted to make sure he can become law. it's unclear whether that could happen
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 9:00am PST
want to see a fiscal cliff deal. if it cuts the heck out of all kind of programs, then you can have a deal that is actually a real drag on the recovery as well. maybe not a recession, but a slower year than we otherwise would and slow growth. again, there's two percentage points in the payroll tax scheduled to increase on january 1. if you look at how negotiations are going, it looks like it's going to happen. the typical family's taxes by $1,000 over the course of a year. >> the final one, we are talking debt ceiling. you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the possibility of default. it comes around again at the end of february, beginning of mar
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
but the truth is i think the president is hoping to go over the fiscal cliff. he can enact tax increases, cut defense spending and blame it on the republicans. the problem is we have had harry reid and the senate democrats haven't passed a budget plan in three years and they're looking at just raising taxes. we need to seriously address the spending in this country and we haven't had that from the democrats. we have to have that for things to pass. really get this deficit under control. >> all right. so keith, that was a loud sigh that you just gave. >> you heard that? >> i think everybody at home just heard that. so you obviously do not agree with alice's assessment there. i want to show debbie wasserman-schultz's quote. no 48-notice on house votes just yet. the president has a lot to gain politically with the blame on republicans for letting all of the country go over the cliff and the fact that they seem to hold on with the death grip for millionaires in this country. >> the republicans will be blamed it seems according to the polls going over the fiscal cliff but the president is responsi
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 2:00am PST
. as fiscal cliff talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in early next year, lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b failed to get enough republican support for a vote last week. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline, the s&p 500 posted its best week in four. and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 climbed 13. the nasdaq has jumped 16%. >>> reports are due this week on pending home sales. sales of new homes and a look at home prices in the nation's 20 largest cities. >>> are you still not sure what to get for the person who has everything? new retail numbers show footwear was the fifth most popular gift on shoppers' lists on black friday. a year ago, shoes didn't even make it into the top ten gifts for the season. >>> good news for hollywood. attendance by moviegoers is up more than 5.5% so far this year. ticket revenue is projected to jump by 6% by the end of 2012 which would be the industry's biggest year
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 3:00pm PST
of the fiscal cliff and what these discussions are going to be. you can tell by what they're to kused on. we talk so much about what the tax cuts are going to be for the top rate on the top earners because that's what the gop is so much invested in defending. >> if those tax cuts go away, that's going to have a really, really negative effect on our economy. here's how, rev. one of the things we don't talk enough about is this whole consumer maif yor. and once we start to directly impablgt consumer's confidence and go out and buy everything, tha is going to have a severe effect on our economy. >> we've seen consumer confidence go down already. >> there's right. >> i was on morning joe this morning and something that was said that really, really startled me. listen to this. >> half of the americans are what they've taken to calling financially frazle. they couldn't come up with $2,000 if they needed to come up with it, without selling belongings, without taking out a payday loan, without going to some sort of rather desperate measures. >> half of the american people couldn't put their hands on
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
believe in, which is austerity? all the fiscal cliff is the logical conclusion of an expiring tax policy, which was written to expire, combined with severe cuts in spending. republicans are supposed to be for cuts in spending, but these particular cuts, they're scrambling to avert. i want to know that irony. >> and not protecting the 98% of people who this would affect. >> republicans could fix that. >> we cannot ignore doug in this conversation. i feel like doug is being ignored. doug, from politico, both the republicans and the democrats are looked at as why both sides -- for many it means blaming president obama, and investigating for -- for democrats, the cliff is better than setting a rich man's cutoff in the million dollar range or -- and slashing medicare and social security to appease republicans. this is really -- i know we cause it the cliff, i look at it. it's a clean slate for both sides in 2013, and to dig in in a modern approach. >> well, if that's a republican strategy to blame the president, good luck with that. polls aren't bearing that out. they're getting most of the b
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am PST
to play. as we know, if the fiscal cliff comes to pass, we'll be seeing a lot of bush era tack rates that will go up anyway. >> we know the president oftentimes trying to go to the middle. we know he's more of a moderate. he trying to bring two sides together. what we also know is republicans are relevant from a constitutional standpoint, because they control the house, so both sides will have to give something here, and the hard right or the hard left, because they caved on somebody, but that's what xlom is all about. >> but the democrats have a stronger hand. >> i don't disagree. >> so it's not a totally even give-and-take. >> he does -- >> well, it's at the white house, it is the president's meeting, thus in the process he should be doing the talking, but he should be facilitating saying, speaker boehner, where do we go from here? we tried your way and it did not work, look, nancy pelosi, how do we get something through the house? >> talk about the reid/mcconnell special relationship. they were the two that cobbled together deals. 2011 is a great example. will they have a three-pe
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 3:00am PST
the spending cuts. what happens if we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days. >> not much is my understanding. it's much more what the market psyche will do and with respect with the tax hikes and cuts, the hit people take is not as much as the rhetoric suggested early on. what weather it's enough to get back to negotiating things, i agree with you that we will go over the deadline. that's the big question of what kind of political ramifications we will have. you will have a chunk more on the payroll. there is a cut because of the sequestration. >> all of us are aware that most people at the top of fortune 500 companies look at these claims saying this is ridiculous. you couldn't run any business the way they try to run the country. is there any immediate impact on the markets next week with their inability to get anything done? >> yes. that's the biggest impact by far. yes, the payroll tax will take effect and that will be one of the most immediate things we see, but it takes two weeks to adjust your paychecks and spend more time repairing and restoring and trying to solve that. the market d
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 7:00am PST
the fight that made us sit here today to talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak i
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 2:00pm PST
the players in this fiscal cliff game. let's look at what president obama and speaker boehner want. president obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our vie
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreemen
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
to reach a deal, the impact is as unlikely as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel the brunt of the fiscal cliff fallout. the dow fell on friday after the deal failed the night before. last week fitch warned it may downgrade the u.s. credit rating if congress cannot reach a deal. some lawmakers are angling for the best political outcountry. >> when i listen to the president, i think he's eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years, and he ge
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 10:00am PST
that the tax portion of a deal on the fiscal cliff has been agreed to with the sequester. essentially the automatic cuts. the date with those going into effect still being the sticking point. republicans wanting shorter, possibly three months. democrats hoping for longer. maybe two years. how much does that factor into your calculation of whether you vote for this bill or not? when those automatic cuts design to sort of be the sort of thing hanging over the congress's head. how important is that to you when we see what the senate and if the senate but what the senate produces? >> sure. those cuts are very important. i mean, when you talk about 8% discretionary spending cuts, that's major, and it hits our constituents pretty hard. if they're talking about a temporary halting of the sequester, perhaps that maybe a good thing. of course, like to see it longer than three months. i'm just hearing this. mying 20 give taxpayers a break. people want us to get this thing done. if we have to delay to continue spending. that, of course, is all connected with job creation. certainly i would love
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we we're hopeful that congress can get it done, but it's not done. >> so it's not done. in case you missed that, he said it twice, not done. reports of an emerging deal focus on a few key parameters, raising tax rates on couple it's making more than $450,000 a year, increasing the estate tax rate, and extending unemployment benefits for one year. the major sticking point new appears to be sequester spending. while the president said he would prefer a grand bargain, a certain branch of government stood in the way. >> with this congress that was obviously a little too much to hope for. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 9:00am PST
office, the combination of dramatic spending cuts and tax hikes in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00am PST
following president obama's announcement that he would cut his vacation short to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. hoping that the real estate market would bolster the economy in 2013. we are learning that holiday sales this year were the weakest since 2008. they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be h
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:30am PST
rushes home to washington, cutting short his hawaiian vacation in order to resume talks on the fiscal cliff. there are just five days remaining to strike a deal. we'll get to all that in a moment, but first, we begin with a massive winter storm that made holiday travel miserable for millions of americans, including me! winter storm euclid -- what, are we naming snowstorms now? euclid. you can lid? well, euclid blanketed much of the eastern half of the country yesterday, dropping blizzard-like conditions and record snowfall in the midwest, and by late afternoon, euclid moved northeast, bringing traffic to a standstill, forcing the cancellation of more than 1,500 flights on one of the busiest travel days of the year. the weather channel's mike seidel has more on the massive christmas storm. >> reporter: a major snowstorm has dumped over a foot of snow across parts of the midwest. indiana got hit hard. high winds adding to the misery there. >> it's a lot better with the four-wheel-drive, but it, yeah, it's definitely a doozy out there. >> reporter: and there's lots of snow in little rock
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Dec 31, 2012 5:00am PST
for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> fiscal cliff negotiations are now down to the wire with a midnight deadline just hours away. that's tonight, new year's eve. at stake, the prospect of sweeping tax hikes and across-the-board spending cuts if a deal is not reached. and all indications are it's not looking good. here's the latest. the senate is scheduled to reconvene at 11:00 this morning. any deal today would have to be rushed through both chambers of congress before midnight. as talks in the senate stalled yesterday, minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to someone he believed could help jump-start the negotiations and perhaps deliver an 11th-hour compromise. that's vice president joe biden. mcconnell and biden reportedly spoke several times by phone throughout the night after talks with harry reid came to a halt. welcome back, everyone, to "morning joe." that's the latest. ed rendell and jeffrey sachs all with us along with sam stein and michael steele in washington. joining us also in washington, senior national correspondent for "bloomberg businessweek," joshua green. and jo
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Dec 26, 2012 7:00pm PST
hawaii vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. >> really, it's kind of like falling down stairs. we have a dysfunctional congress. >> speaker boehner needs to bring his party along. >> it's pretty clear that he could not bring them along. >> john boehner doesn't seem to have full control of his caucus. >> they were this close. >> the republicans will be blamed. >> they were this close to a solution. >> we're going to head over that cliff. >> i know it's hard for the republicans. the minute those leaders move forward, they get viscerated. >> guns shouldn't be available for anyone, any time, anywhere. >> the conversation still wages on. >> its plan to add more guns to schools. >> a completely dumb-ass idea. >> i don't think the nra is listening. >> you can call it whatever you want to call it. >> congress hasn't confirmed the director of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. >> dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional congress. >> we're not going to allow what has happened in the past to go on. >> congress has just three business days to pass legislation to avoid going over
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:00am PST
schwarzkopf has died. >>> a fiscal milk cliff is looming. bears over the bruins in the holiday bowl. >>> good morning, even as the finger pointing continues on capitol hill this morning, new hope on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire just about every worker is going to see their paycheck reduced. it's going to eliminate unemployment extensions and initiate spending cuts across the board. >> how will people see this in their paychecks and in their taxes? >> workers will feel it immediately in their paychecks. those paychecks will be reduced. those making 40,000, 50,000 are going to see 1700 less a year. it continues as the wages increase. so
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Dec 28, 2012 8:00pm PST
of 2013. these are the people that republicans have used as pawns in the fiscal cliff debate. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded spending cuts to offset the estimated. $30 billion cost of extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another yeaof extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.insurance program for another yeayear. mcconnell was elected to serve the people of kentucky. so how do mcconnell and junior senator rand paul justify letting federal unemployment benefits expire for 24,000 people in their state? how can senator marco rubio allow nearly 119,000 unemployed floridians to be cut off? senators john mccain and jon kyl should be fighting for the 28,000 people who would be affected in arizona. it's not clear if they will. and the list goes on and on. unemployment benefits are vital to the economic security of millions of americans, and the continued recovery of the u.s. econom
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
and the fiscal cliff drama. most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker'
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Dec 23, 2012 11:00pm PST
over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan b i thought made as soon as. to my republican kcolleagues, te the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. i lime simpson-bowles. the president is going to get tax rate hikes. to my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the public from a tax hike that, is not a tax increase in my book. chuck, maybe you and me and some other people in the senate can find a way to find this on the short term but on the long term there's not going to be a deal any time soon. >> you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big chance at the big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent from becoming greece and save social security and medicare. to anybody listening, i will raise the debt ceiling orchl if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent this country from becom
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Dec 30, 2012 5:00am PST
equality. we're one day away from what most media are calling the fiscal cliff. if political concoction enacted by congress to frighten itself into passing deficit reduction measures which means unless congress acts in the next 48 hours the bush tax cuts will expire along with federal unemployment insurance and a broad package of the spending cuts including defense spending will take effect. do weeks of fruitless negotiations and john boehner and senate leader are working on a deal this morning to avoid the fiscal cliff, or as chris hayes and i call it, the fiscal curve. the deadline is soft. it's not like every american is going to be handed a bill on january 1st and there's way to manage the damage if the country goes over. the senate is set to convene this afternoon with the house to follow tonight. there's a chance that a compromise will be reached, less than 48 hours before tax rates revert to their clinton dasher are levels and board across the board spending cuts talk effect. when the president took to the podium friday afternoon to urge the law enforcements to get their act toge
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Dec 30, 2012 3:00pm PST
guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> welcome back to msnbc's continuing coverage of the fiscal cliff deadline. i'm
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Dec 29, 2012 4:00am PST
and a whole suite of things that were part of the fiscal cliff that aren't going to be touched. we'll have the debt ceiling rehash, all of these things come back in the first couple of weeks. >> we have a timeline issue here, we just -- a few days away, things have to -- things don't move quickly in washington as we know. there are rules in both houses of when things can come up, how much time has to pass for debate. they have to change rules to get it through quickly. even if senate comes up with the deal. mcconnell and harry reid come up with the deal. they accept it to the house on sunday night, monday morning. what are the chances of them getting their ducks in a row, boehner getting his ducks in a row and us still being able to avoid the krif? >> right. we should have a better sense of that by tomorrow afternoon when they start to reconvene. speaker boehner made it clear at the meeting at the white house on friday, anything that the senate passes will be considered by the house, might be amended, might be changed a bit. has to go back to the senate quick for changes. but he said will
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